We will begin with opening remarks from the deputy minister, Mr. Tremblay. Many of the communities were working together kind of unofficially to help each other. When we come down to definitions and social determinants, it should be done completely in a First Nations context, including substantive equality. Senator McCallum: Thank you for your presentation. The black-line version is our beginning of a suggestion of a solution. In the active efforts, they talk about preserving the Indigenous family. Mr. Tremblay: It is a debate we had during all the engagement. Similarly, language on the funding in the preamble with respect to predictable, stable, sustainable, needs-based and consistent with the principle of substantive equality should be defined in a way that facilitates information-gathering — clauses 27 to 30 — and accountability — clause 31. As Dr. Blackstock said earlier, when we surveyed First Nations child and welfare agencies, 60 per cent couldn’t pay anywhere near provincial salaries. There’s financial poverty. They don’t get an opportunity to express their own emotions. For example, if you look to clause 12 of this legislation as it is, we highlighted the need for protection of children’s privacy. The PBO has done good work on costing out First Nation education gaps, water gaps and schools, but we’re asking for something holistic across all those programs so we can finally have a comprehensive plan that puts all these inequalities behind these children and families forever. and he will stare you down through that mask without saying a word untill you comply. appropriate Standing Committees for consideration.”) ... clearly outline to Councillors and their staff the purpose of the global office budget and that payments to community organizati ons, including sports teams, in the form of sponsorships, donations, etc. I haven’t seen any analysis that looks at how the two of these will intersect. It is 16. That again brings us back to the funding issue for support for families, for families’ representation and the representation of children themselves to have a voice in these proceedings. It’s deeply appreciated. Ms. Blackstock: If it remains as it is, then my worry is that the fate of First Nations, Inuit and Metis children is, again, subject to political priorities about what gets funded and what’s in the regulations. We have 13 provinces and territories; we have First Nations operating child welfare agencies for over 40 years.” But that’s really not an excuse. My questions are for Mr. Senator LaBoucane-Benson: Thank you very much for your presentation. It also seeks to ensure that when apprehension is deemed in the best interests of the Indigenous child, priority is given to placement with the child’s own family or community, and with or near the child’s siblings. I wonder if it wouldn’t be worthwhile to have two pieces in the primary consideration: the well-being and safety, but also the child’s connection to family, culture and community. So there are different situations across the country that will need to be taken into account. Cynthia Wesley-Esquimaux, Formerly Minister’s Special Representative on Child Welfare, as an individual: Good morning, and thank you for the opportunity to come and speak to you. Senator McCallum: I want to speak about the social determinants of health. I think that it ignores outcomes. There is very little mention. I would like to welcome all honourable senators and members of the public who are watching this meeting of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples either here in the room, on television or listening via the web. With the discussion that Senator Tannas just had, I wonder if one of the things we should consider is establishing a position of chief statistician for First Nations children in care. Jurisdiction is essential as an inherent right of First Nations. He’s right. This is further confused by the vague use of the word “authorized.” NWAC is concerned that Western laws and Indigenous laws may be in conflict with one another when granting authority to a particular government, with no clear method for resolution. Now, the 2018 order by the tribunals improved some of that a bit, but I think when Mr. When we look at this definition, it has no gender-based lens. What’s behind the very vision that Dr. Blackstock talks about is moving some of the focus away from protection, which we’ve seen in existing models, to something where we want children to thrive. It’s opening a door that was not open before to make sure that we have a discussion where First Nations, Inuit and Metis have a word to say because they have a jurisdiction and can affirm that jurisdiction. It’s a formula rather than just straight numbers of students. Thank you all for taking the time to meet with us this morning. Mr. Can you help us better understand — at least help me understand — the current situation with your mandate and this proposed legislation? As you have heard from the previous speaker, there are a lot of conversations that need to happen around this. However, if you have too many divisions, you need to use another heading or sub-heading. Apprehension costs a lot of money at the moment, and it’s not necessarily producing the results. (5)The Standing Committee/Community Council process is a new process as yet undefined. More children are in foster care now than were ever in residential schools, demonstrating that colonial erosion of Indigenous family units and communities is still the status quo in Canada. Francyne spoke earlier to the definition of “Indigenous governing body” in this bill. Senator Doyle: Norman Doyle, Newfoundland and Labrador. But this will add another particular layer, and the bill is absent about this, so I see some trouble about jurisdictions. Note importantÂ reviews from employees from review sites. I think, as Dr. Blackstock has raised over and over again at the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, there’s a need at least in the short term to establish an appropriate baseline. When they were given the resources, they made their own Bringing our Children Home Act, and the then minister announced it was going to be a pan-Canadian model and that she had an agreement with AFN. I wanted to ask you about funding. Senator Christmas: Thank you, Dr. Blackstock. The first principle is the best interests of the child; second, cultural continuity; third, substantive equality. In Minister Bennett’s department, there is a negotiation table on self-government, for example. Decorate your laptops, water bottles, helmets, and cars. We are creating in Canada an environment in these communities that perpetuates the problems that these communities are suffering from. When listing them use a capital letter of the English alphabet. The decision was made in January of 2016, and the tribunal substantiated the complaint and ordered Canada to immediately cease its discriminatory behaviour. Native American legal scholar Robert Williams says that at its core, colonialism embodies the “savage” and the “civilized” dichotomy, where colonial countries like Canada have deemed themselves the civilized and deemed First Nations peoples, Metis and Inuit peoples as savage. For substantive equality, we have a number of subclause from (a) to (e) that talk about the rights of children, the rights of family members, the rights of Indigenous governing bodies, the gap-related issues from Jordan’s Principle. Government and policy-makers are looking to extend jurisdiction but without commensurate resources. 11:00 AM-1:00 PM. Moreover, this type of outline follows a certain format in organizing the ideas based on the characters used as the prefix. I’m going to focus my comments on First Nations’ children because I expect you will have more able witnesses to speak about the Inuit and Metis example. I don’t know whether the committee found it out, but certainly one of the things that I found out when talking to one of the former premiers of Saskatchewan was that the provincial funding formula for education took into account the kinds of things we’re talking about today, for example, remoteness of the school. I think the court issue is also alive there because there are emergency protection orders, as I understand, in that particular legislation. That is all it does. From shop xenturii. It’s not hard for somebody like me to look at the data and see what kind of incomes First Nations communities have available and how they relate to poverty lines and the gaps that exist. To do so would be ill-advised. Without clear, stable, structured funding required by law, the aims stated in the preamble are lost. We fund the federal fund, as you know, the First Nation services, and other services are funded by provinces. We talked about a two-pronged approach for funding so that 20 per cent goes for protection and the rest goes to the community. We are not asking Canada to put a dollar figure in this bill. You don’t have an obligation to take it, but you have the capacity. Ms. Wesley-Esquimaux: I don’t have a mandate at this moment, so I’m coming in as a former Minister’s Special Representative to have a conversation about my conversations across Canada. I’m afraid that if it goes through as it is, there will be a number of legal challenges to this bill that will tie it up in the courts and won’t allow First Nations communities to move forward with the help they need. Senator Coyle: Following on this line of discussion, having heard from our previous panel representative, Dr. Blackstock, about the need for kind of a Marshall Plan here, let’s get serious and not accept mediocrity anymore. Could either of you speak to this? And they are not getting parental care. They were at the launch when the minister tabled the legislation, and the three of them talked about a good co-development process. Page: In terms of what might make sense, I agree a lot with what you are saying — setting targets that are aligned to indicators of well-being, not just children in care, and reviewing these targets on an annual basis, maybe not even four or five years, just tracking it on an annual basis and having independent oversight. Some of those provinces shared how many resources they get on an annual basis, and they’re holding pretty tight to it. The Chair: I will ask a follow-up question with regard to that. I had one young woman say to me, “If they took me away from my mother because my mother was an unfit parent and put me in care, shouldn’t I be a better parent?” rather than being treated as if they were a lesser parent. We want Canada to enshrine the well-researched and considered principles of funding that the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal has deemed necessary after studying this question for nearly a decade. YourÂ heading and subheading will look like this: I.Â Foundation of MugsA. Discover your comparative advantage and improve team engagement with StandOut, powered by ADP. I worked with front-line child protection for 13 years, I have been doing this for 35. I want to be clear that the Caring Society takes the view we are not here to be right. To me it wasn’t poverty, though people may see it like that. Some people say it’s obvious. The other important thing is the whole question of provincial relationships and how the province has so much jurisdiction and authority over what happens with child welfare that it creates a real problem at the ground. It’s more than just the number of students. You need to put culture, family and resources to the family first. Ms. Wesley-Esquimaux: If I can add to that, I spoke to a lot of young people. She has begun to do some important thinking about how these two bills intersect. Page, that you have linked them to substantive equality, but that would require that the government would have to implement funding arrangements that would be out of the scope of the Senate to make. LookingÂ at the basic APA outline format guidelines and examples, do not forgetÂ that: If this seems baffling, refer to the examples of APA outline formats below. Mr. We need to have those discussions to say exactly what will happen. This is for the APPA update. I will not reduce it just to a distinction of First Nations, Inuit and Metis. My feeling is you had better go directly to the community because that’s where those kids live. Senator Christmas: Good to see you again, Dr. Blackstock, and it’s good to see Spirit Bear again. I had the opportunity in 2016 to travel quite literally from coast to coast to coast to have conversations at the community level, the provincial level and sometimes at the federal level with different people who were obviously working in the field of child and family care. I had young people say to me, “You took me from my mother. I appreciate that, as has been said, it’s the opening of a door that has been asked to be open for quite some time and is largely focused on jurisdiction. Senator McCallum: Thank you for your presentations. They’re definitely pragmatically available to all of us, as we’ve seen through the different types of innovations that have been made around language and telehealth, except maybe now we’re going to create “tele-elder” or maybe even “tele-bear.”. Then you need accountability mechanisms back to that child’s community of origin. If you can’t get enough of one example, then this could satisfy you. Senator Tannas: Would you give us a hand when we go to put something together on this? In this format, this refers to the structure between the headings and sub-headings. Senator McCallum: So what you recommended here are the ones that we need to consider? If there are new communities that want to take on this type of jurisdiction that are not currently doing it, we should define it and they should be resourced accordingly. The herd's mother willingly directed her calves to meet the young monks. Thank you for your time. Hence your headings and subheadings must look like this: I.Â Foundation of Mugs.A.Â History of Mugs. I agree with you that it’s not properly defined. White or transparent. They don’t have big houses. Part of what we’re looking at with all of our partners now is what that transition governance looks like, whether it’s a steering committee, working groups, those types of structures, to make sure those very important issues of funding, for example, can be addressed in a holistic way and in a distinctions-based way. Page: Absolutely, senator. I acknowledge that we gather on the unceded and unsurrendered traditional territory of the Algonquin people. We have had a lot of conversations with them about the kinds of steps that they need to take, and I think we need to trust that process and give them what they ask for, not what we think they need. An important aspect of the bill is that it would be flexible. As Dr. Wesley-Esquimaux has pointed out, the need for funding is primary. In some cases, we go through the provinces. But as Dr. Blackstock said over and over again, we need to establish appropriate baselines. All orders are custom made and most ship worldwide within 24 hours. It’s some of the health needs. In the meantime, their children are still going to be an apprehended based on this “best interests of the child” version. Most of the food we ate came from the garden or from animals. We can make decisions about jurisdiction and authority and restoration, but if we don’t put the dollars in the community — I’m not saying it should go necessarily to the agencies — but in communities where the families can put food in the fridge, we are going to continue to have these problems. They will prepare their reports. That was based on 2017-18 data. This legislation is more a starting point. Thinking about what Cynthia shared with us, one of the pieces of this legislation I’ve been thinking a lot about is the best interests of the Indigenous child and how that is formulated. Senator McCallum: I want to go back to the issue of substantive equality. I have lost a son to an addiction issue. Ms. Blackstock: What we’re asking for is an ingraining of funding principles. The governance structure could, for example, examine issues of capacity and funding so that the bill could have the impact it needs. There has to be recognition that there’s a lot of diversity across the country. Consequently, this version of Appa ended up coming very close to flawlessly recreating the original's style, as the art piece presents the bison's fluffy coat as a whole rather than emphasizing the individual hairs. Learn about the Speaker’s roles in the Senate and beyond. Bill C-92 is meant to enable a system shift from apprehension to prevention, with a priority given to services that promote preventive care and support families. Mr. Tremblay, Bill C-92 contains no guaranteed funding to enable First Nations jurisdiction. The APA covers the initial title page to bibliography citation page. Once you’ve established your structure, it must be consistent with all your headings and subheadings. I think Senator McCallum’s point was that it’s not a baseline that says we will spend an equal amount on Indigenous and non-Indigenous children, which is sometimes the case in educational funding. I stopped in those different places. The primary consideration is the child’s physical, emotional, psychological safety, security and well-being, and then factors after that. Despite some positive examples and some improvements and many pronouncements over the last decades, it continues to manifest itself in the federal relationship with First Nations’ children. Ms. Joe: As mentioned, we had the legislation passed to us and we had about 36 hours to go over it, and our board of directors had about six hours to go through it on a weekend. That bill proposes changes around how decisions will be made about where children are placed and family arrangements. It’s not that we want every kid to suffer. I have had suicide in my family. 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